Host and pastor Bob Bouwer speaks with Norma S. Williams, disciple of Jesus,  interior designer, and founder of Excellence By Design.

However, Norma's work is more than walls and floors. Hear how she allows the Spirit to guide how she conducts business, and the fruit of it has been life-changing opportunities for herself and others around her.

Ordinary Christians is a production of Faith Church in Dyer, IN, a Bible-believing, outreach-oriented, multisite community of believers committed to changing the world one relationship at a time.

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